G22Model Year: 2020 + Previous Generations; F32 / F33Model Year: 2013 - 2019. Did you check the weight difference between the 50 and 70? I bought the 4 cylinder because it is my daily driver and dont want to spend a ton on gasoline but it just lacks torque. I'd entertain the science of installing a B58 engine into a 2010 e61 535xi wagon (N54 engine) 1 I have done this conversion on my own e91 320 lci since finding an lci e91 n54 proved very difficult and I find non lci rather dated in comparison. Also, apart from a couple of crappy attachments in the N54 that can fail, the N54 isn't an engine that needs to be swapped with anything. I guess that is kinda what I'm asking. 320xi f30 swapped in 340xi. F40Model Year: 2019 + Previous Generations; F20 / F21Model Year: 2012 - 2018. . Funny that I should stumble on this thread . This is very cool, I've been looking at more information on B58 swaps because the N55 in my 435 isn't doing particularly great.. when it blows I really want to swap a B58 because I dislike the N55. Very interesting swap, so if I understand you right, you have a B58 swapped into your 320i xDrive? Is the 335i and 328i E92 BMW different at all other than the engine it comes with? i saw a lot of e46 engine swap on internet. EDIT: Why not just go with the n54, do a full engine out service and get it working like new again with some aftermarket turbos? It would require WAY to much work to even be remotely worth it. The second N52 mod we're discussing is a performance intake. 4. Yes, there are major hard limits to what the factory car will supply fuel-wise. A forum community dedicated to BMW owners and enthusiasts. I had been thinking about swap since October, but made it in March. If it's an M/T car i'm sure they got it out of a M240i and not a Supra or a G-series or something. E90/E91/E92/E93 (2006 - 2013) N20/B48 swap 2008 E92 320i. I cannot imagine the level of reverse engineering to get . FIRST b58 swapped e36 470HP 700+NM DRIFT 34,728 views Sep 22, 2021 857 Dislike Share Save Ostap Demkiv 256 subscribers B58B30A 2018 M140i engine 403bhp 700Nm 100RON tune @afterfix SCS Delta GDI6. 4. Such a better motor than the N55. Do you have any videos on youtube? Low-end torque SUCKED, so it felt bog slow at low revs. Poor choice for a race car ??? May have been posted elsewhere, but is the actual limit of the stock automatic transmission on the 340i? I'm sure it'd still be a nightmare but less of a nightmare than a b58 swap. I guess that's one way to keep the single turbo sound and getting S55 power levels - from what I've seen the B58 is a beast with a ton of tuning potential. Hello guys i know that this is not the appropriate forum thread to write this, But i am planning on swaping a B58 engine in my BMW 120i E87 2005 but i have lots of questions about it, I don't have much knowledge to help you. My question are. Thread Tools: Search this Thread 01-05-2018, 06:57 AM #1: billabum. So if everything is stock, I'd bet on the B58 over the N54/N55. Edit: Got my answer, thanks for your help! High capacity 5 1/2" deep front sump design with side kick outs for maximum oil capacity 1/2" thick CNC machined 6061 Billet Aluminum Flange and back plate Machined gasket surface to ensure no gasket leaks Rigid design like the OEM GM pan to ensure maximum strength and durability Therefor you need to buy an N57 flywheel, luckily these can be found cheap on eBay ($50-$100 from overseas, or . He must be an electronics genius to make every system on the car work as stock with that swap B58. The Fora platform includes forum software by XenForo. If youre dead set on an e90 find a late model with one already in it. I wouldnt call this a swap as you cant just swap the engine. There will be a problem with the driveshafts, from which they will fit, the transfer case itself also differs in the year of manufacture, despite the same model ACL35, perhaps something else will go crooked)). I do love the M240i but a 335i E92 has been my dream car for yeeaaarrss. M4. E90 / E91 / E92 / E93Model Year: 2006 - 2011. Ok saying that the N54 is german 2jz is wrong as the 2JZ-GTE is actually German LOL. Nikasil coating on the cylinder walls. Stock turbos, the B58 is better. I wouldnt. The main candidate for an engine swap is the B58 powerplant. It'll require all wiring, DME, trans and all assoc computers steering, then all interior tech to match too such as cluster AC radio etc. New Member. Yes it was done to the T at the end but only because the parts were outsourced dead cheap and it still cost the person $10k with everything. pretty sure the motor and setup would fit, just would be custom and expensive. E90 / E92Model Year: 2007 - 2013. From $650 View. www.n54tuning.com / mike@n54tuning.com Your # 1 Source for BMW Performance Parts at the LOWEST Prices! Of the eight BMWs I had, the M3 was my least favorite. Find a 335i with the parts you want. Hi guys, after an M5 F10 full swap been done, just got an B58 of an 140i ready to swap. E90 / E91 / E92 / E93Model Year: 2006 - 2011. Items for everyone including white elephants. Laverne: '18 F80 Base 6MT | Paul's E85 | Stock Turbos | Kies Hub | FBOs | 7sec 60-130 | 11.7@124 (Sold in Feb). Do you have more photos of the swap process? I have personally witnessed a 318i transformed into a 325i on an e46 chassis and my gosh there are so many differences from brakes, suspension, diff, engine, tranny, electronics, cluster, steering update, seats, even rear parcel shelf where rear speakers sit is different material, wiring, interior bits and pieces. E90 / E91 / E92 / E93Model Year: 2006 - 2011. BMW 1 Series Coupe Forum / 1 Series Convertible Forum (1M / tii / 135i / 128i / Coupe / Cabrio / Hatchback) (BMW E82 E88 128i 130i 135i), 135i Turbo Engine (N54 / N55), Exhaust and Drivetrain Modifications, https://view.imirus.com/290/document/13379/page/28. E46Model Year: 2000 - 2006. Ordinary person who buys bit by bit first either through dealer or outsourcing was something like $15k plus more like $20k. F90Model Year: 2018 + Previous Generations; . LOVED it right up until a guy nailed the front end and totaled it. You must log in or register to reply here. M4. I am Grisha from Rostov, Russia. recently blew up my stock HP50 transmission in my 340i. B58 Turbo Engine / Drivetrain / Exhaust Modifications. Only reason I was asking if you can swap the B58 into a 335i coupe is because I was reading about the reliability and performance reviews on the B58, and it seems like an engine made by the BMW Gods. Cannot found anything on the web. It was a post on the M2 page on Facebook. Bimmerpost Model Selection. The "Stuck-in-Comfort" mode issue should be now fixed for all cars. Handicap friendly. 1. 2023 X3 M40i | 2018 M3 Comp - Sold | 2017 340i - Sold | 2014 328i - Sold, I'd love to have the f8x chassis with s58 and dct and maybe g8x suspension. Sponsor: Ontelaunee Region AACA. Id sooner swap a boat anchor instead of the N20, therere about worth the same. Way cheaper and easier to just buy a 335i, debage it and slap a 320i badge on. gmail ! Do you have any videos on youtube? N55 Engine / Drivetrain / Exhaust / Bolt-ons / Tuning. I received ended car on 28 March, how I remember. Which body would work the best for swapping the B58 into. Regular price $49.95 View. Before we begin, I have an F31 Touring, which was only offered in the US with the N20/N26, B48 or N47. Allows for less friction for a quicker revving engine at the cost of cylinder strength. I haven't found any definitive answers for this question but how interchangeable are the N55s from different years and chassis, so I was hoping the wisdom of the forum could illuminate what would work with what. This motor is very easy to remove,,,plenty of room in the engine compartment,,,,,hopefully I can do the job in the aloud factory time limit of 16 hour,,,,,today of 6 hours of work,,,,I removed the engine and trans,,,removed the old engine,,,swapped over the new engine,,,,and swapped over the intake manifold,alternator,a/c compressor and starter Location: Los Angeles, CA and Phoenix, AZ. _____ Current: ///M2 LCi N55 - Mperf Carbon Kit - Mperf Exhaust - Bilstein B16 - Millway Camber . I want to know how I can fit the G80 grilles to my F80. A lot of differences. shouldn't be too bad considering that the B58 sits on the F chassis, B58 block is pretty similar to the S58. Does anyone know weather or not the B58 shares the same engine mounts as the M54B30? N55 engine swap into E36 BMW cheap and easy DIY - YouTube 0:00 / 1:29:01 N55 engine swap into E36 BMW cheap and easy DIY HakenE30 1.38K subscribers Subscribe 757 Share Save 31K views 1 year. Youll probably beat any b58 any day of the week. No need for a b58. E-Chassis DCT Swap $6,500.00 Tax included. Vader Solution. 5. . As a general rule, the rough lifespan of these BMW parts is as follows: Stock BMW, minimal aggressive driving Spark Plugs: 40,000 - 50,000 miles Ignition Coils: 50,000 - 65,000 miles Heavily modified BMW, significant aggressive driving Spark Plugs: 15,000 miles Ignition Coils: 20,000 - 25,000 miles E81 / E82 . I wonder how difficult the swap is, considered it when I had mine. 1 marcus45A1 5 mo. By the time you're done, you prolly could buy a 335 twice over. Rep. 296. A. Autoputzer 160 Replies. I also saw someone with a 2015 320xi pre-lci manage to have a B58 swapped into his F30. Where else to find out about the problems with such a replacement for X-drive. As we all know, the N54 is the german equivalent of the 2JZ. Don't miss our N55 400+hp guide or N55 engine problems article. Saw this post linked from the 6MT trans limit discussion. I'd love to hear the nitty gritty details about getting ECU to play nice. Car is a manual, would have been even better to have a B58 DCT! F30POST > Technical Forums > N20, N26, B46, B48 Turbo Engine / Drivetrain / Exhaust Modifications > N55/B58 swap into N20 Touring. G22Model Year: 2020 + Previous Generations; F32 / F33Model Year: 2013 - 2019. Fettled M135i EB AT - gone but not forgotten: N55 Engine / Drivetrain / Exhaust / Bolt-ons / Tuning. E46Model Year: 2000 - 2006. The N55 is a pretty solid engine. Can pwg parts be swapped over to ewg engine, Cts turbo xdrive lowering spring set **new product**, New here! I wouldn't call this a "swap" as you can't just swap the engine. It's been done before. The whole powertrain system and electronics will need to be modified, this is a complete custom change. I already got a tune but that did not really make a difference. N55 is my preferred engine in the E92 lineup. G22Model Year: 2020 + Previous Generations; F32 / F33Model Year: 2013 - 2019. Find amazing local prices on Bmw n47 engine for sale Shop hassle-free with Gumtree, your local buying & selling community. The B58 is probably a much more natural transplant since that chassis already comes with it. . VS - Wilwood Drag Brake Kit E90 E91 E92 E93 E82. How does it's Crank Hub do compared to the S55? Location: Hamburg Fire Co. Field House, 1127 South Fourth St, Hamburg, PA 19526. The B58 has not bested the N54. Have you noticed any difference in torque delivery because of the flywheel change? So I was curious on how hard it would be to put a B58 into my E92 at some point. I'm not sure if I missed it, but is the B58 closed deck? We in North America do not know the E87 nor the N46 so we likely can't be of much help. That doesn't sound right. (1 review) Write a Review. E90 / E91 / E92 / E93Model Year: 2006 - 2011. That sounds like a very very very complicated swap if you're trying to run it off of the factory systems. the new b58 engine is more lighter, it is a straight six engine, the torque are better than s65. Posts. Despite the benefits of a twin-scroll turbo as compared to a single single-scroll turbo, a true twin turbo setup mirrors the benefits of a twin-scroll turbo. Still saving up for the car itself. Without a doubt. M4. You can't swap in a b58 into anything older due to how bmw changed communication lines/data bus lines. Can I swap to an S58? Obviously that is an impossibility and we should do our best to prevent any further misinformation from spreading. He must be an electronics genius to make every system on the car work as stock with that swap B58. I'm not a big fan of E90's. I cannot imagine the level of reverse engineering to get everything to work. It is not financially viable. The B58M30 01 is a Bavarian motor that found its way under the hood of the Mk V Supra as part of the joint-venture that saw the two carmakers developing the new-generation sportscars together, with. Cool idea. From $586.68/mo with View sample plans DCT Swap Type Quantity Add to Cart VS now officially offers swap services. Jul 30, 2022. G22Model Year: 2020 + . Drives: '20 . You have to run Meth to break 400whp, correct? I replaced it with an M3 (e90). M markusmarkus Registered 2018 M240i Joined Jul 22, 2008 hello im fairly new to this car thing too.. i recently purchased my 428I about 7 months ago and im not going to lie i love my car and the n20 engine has been very reliable to me but to be honest i want to go on with my build and proceed with more power bc the n20 can only hold so much power before it blows up. A twin scroll turbocharger increases efficiency thereby decreasing turbo spool time, increasing power, and allows the cylinders to run cooler. I'm not dead set on an E90, I'm dead set on a E92, E90 - has 4 doors E92 - has 2 doors E93 - convertible. A friend of mine I chat with down at rk tunes sent this screenshot to me after it was sent to him. I think SC_B5X was pushing around 650whp? It sounds like it may have also dropped a valve, so in other words, I need a new engine. It looks like the one you swapped in is lighter weight with all those cut outs. Um how to say if your goal is to make the 335 engine work in 320 body shell, then you can definitely do it. Good point. E90/E91/E92/E93 (2006 - 2013) E39 (1997 - 2003) E46 (1999 - 2006) E36 (1991 - 1999) E60 / E61 (2004 - 2010) Top Contributors this Month View All shawnsheridan 428 Replies. 4. Push the connector into the new socket housing as far as you can with your fingers. I am just curious if it would be possible to engine swap a 2008 E92 320i with the more modern turbo N20/B48 engine. shouldn't be too bad considering that the B58 sits on the F chassis, B58 block is pretty similar to the S58. I've been on real-oem seeing what part numbers are the same between the 435 and the 440, and a lot of the modules match up, even things like front and rear subframes match and things like that.. Why walk up a mountain when you dont have to? On an e90, Everything is dearer. On the first time I couldnt decide about which engine I want. We should have more pans ready by March". Built by KK-Performance. However, they only offer products for 2013+ N55 engines. We have tons of content for the N55, and we're always adding more. N52 Intake Manifold Horsepower Gains: ~20hp (328i) and ~30-35hp (325i) Buy Here: N52 330i 3-Stage Intake Manifold. There's really no reason to put a B58 in an E9X car. Also I made a choice with b58, because I thought in that time that with supra release tuners would pay much more attention for this platform. Waste of time and money. The swap will be very expensive and for that cost you'd be better off putting that money towards buying a car with a B58 in it. 1 Reply More posts you may like Post Reply Thread Tools: Search this Thread 07-26-2020, 12:19 AM #1: hon2bmw . I had the hardtop coupe version of that car (e92). Home / N55. VS - Stage 3 (E Series N54/N55) Rev 3 . I was thinking if I purchased a donor car off copart like a 440 with a twisted frame or something, drop the front and rear subframes with the motor and everything, swap over the fuel tank and lines. Also we lost 10 days on delivering new cooling pipes instead broken, which were damaged during delivering of swap kit. It would make more sense and be much easier to install a N52B30 from an older 1 or 5 series. Thank you for information. BMW 3-Series (E90 E92) Forum > BMW E90/E92/E93 3-series General Forums > Regional Forums > Australia > BMW E90 320i engine swap to 335i. the 340 is the upgraded 335 and it has been 10 years so yea its about time BMW release an engine as good as the N54 (power wise). Jump to Latest Follow . The B58's smaller bore allows the engine to be shorter in overall length resulting in a stronger crankshaft, and the considerably longer stroke means longer connecting rods for reduced friction. G22Model Year: 2020 + bimmerfest.com is not in any way affiliated with Bayerische Motoren Werke AG. Engine / Drivetrain / Exhaust / Bolt-ons / Tuning. B58 turbo swap? MTC Motorsport BMW M140i M240i 340i 440i 540i and 740i 4.5" stainless steel decat downpipe for B58 engine only This will NOT fit the 2018 onwards models with the PPF filter unless it has been coded out and can be removed. E90 / E91 / E92 / E93Model Year: 2006 - 2011. Very interested in seeing more info on this build. Possible, but as others have said. Press J to jump to the feed. I can't tell you for sure, but there are a couple of guys on IG who have S55 swapped an F31. But I could be talking out my ass so please correct me if I'm wrong. I'm surprised by the flywheel picture. However, if you're trying to run heavy E85 mixtures you'll probably cap this stage 1 Dorch HPFP well before 550whp. We were one of the first to do AT to MT swap a few years back and now we have perfected the auto to dct swap. I have a 2003 530i and my dad and I have recently started looking at options for an upgrade. With a standalone engine management system that is B58 capable, sure. There is a guy on IG with an F31 who just sourced 440i B58 motor and will be doing the swap in next few months. Stage 2. It was used in pretty much everything BMW offered, from small coupes up to large SUVs, which is a testament to how versatile this engine is. Regular price $140 View. I think better off just upgrading to M2 Comp but still cool to see. Automotive flea market with over 100 indoor vendor spaces and unlimited outdoor spaces and car corral. Welcome to N54Tuning, your one stop shop for all your BMW Tuning and BMW Performance Modifications for the N54, N55, N20, N26, S55, B58/B48 and other BMW platforms! A B58 with a DCT is what I always wanted the M2 to be. any swap is possible with enough money, the question is : is it worth it? Except the M2 is actually a very nice looking car. At least one of them has to be your style. Drives: 2011 LCI 320i. ago Funny that I should stumble on this thread . That's pretty cool. Do all of those fixes for 4k and drive the crap out of it. As we all know, the N54 is the german equivalent of the 2JZ. E90 / E92Model Year: 2007 - 2013. If you really want an E92, I mean damn, that car came with the N54, N55, and S65. Our page dedicated to the amazing BMW N55 3.0 inline-6 turbo engine. Until tuning gets WAY further down the line, no one is going to be making big power on these motors without. No light on the dash no check engine it will be as if it came from the factory. The guy's N55 let go on track, so decided to swap a B58 into it. IF, and I do mean IF the B58 is better than the N54, by transitive property the B58 is then better than the 2JZ. I remember Terry saying somewhere that the factory fueling is capped at right around 400 whp and the only way around it is TBI, PI, Meth, etc. We also have tons of content about N55 upgrades such as N55 fueling mods, turbo upgrades, and so much more! However once you start upgrading the turbo, even though it's a closed deck block, it doesn't have the forged international components. N54/N55 has 300hp & 300 lb-ft of torque while the B58 has 382hp & 369 lb-ft of torque. I don't have either ATM. That is impressive! Any challenges you had because the 320 body? This site uses cookies to help personalise content, tailor your experience and to keep you logged in if you register. In Roundel magazine July 2020, Alex McCulloch writes, "An engine swap is not for the faint of heart" and also says, " the last 10% [of the swap] can be 90% of the heartache". 2. You are using an out of date browser. G82Model Year: 2021 + Previous Generations . Hello guys i know that this is not the appropriate forum thread to write this, But i am planning on swaping a B58 engine in my BMW 120i E87 2005 but i have lots of questions about it. E90 / E92Model Year: 2007 - 2013. Or even the 328i coupe from 2007-2013, in order to save money buying my dream bmw body style, the glorious E92. Shipping: 5. The whole powertrain system and electronics will need to be modified, this is a complete custom change. A 335i is more than just the engine. Sum of all the parts worth way more than what a used 335i is worth. VS - Upgraded Fuel Line 6AN E-Chassis F-Chassis. For a better experience, please enable JavaScript in your browser before proceeding. Vader Solution . Appreciate 0 Quote M5. Buy it. Pure's built transmission is probably the absolute best option for upgraded transmissions we have right now, but also the most expensive coming in at $6000 for their Stage 1 transmission. The original 325i was quieter on gravel roads in the rear compartment compared to the transformed car. Come join the discussion about Bimmerfest events, production numbers, programming, performance, modifications, classifieds, troubleshooting, maintenance, and more! 1. according to leebmann24 , 89 kg for the 70 and 81 kg for the 50, great writewe need more these kind of write ups on the forum, The F20 was never equipped with an HP70 at the factory, unlike the F30 and the like. 4. This makes no sense, but I love it. ! Also, this is going to be a 5 figure cost swap. It would be one hell of a sleeper. s65b40 or s85b50 are the most popular engine. I found a complete B58 engine with ancillaries for a very decent price and due to the reason that my car has 250.000 Km (150.000 miles), Everything is starting to . Anyone know if they offer the build kit for us to build the trans ourselves? $1,601.00. We realised that the original 325i had a thicker inner cover in the rear wheel arches to reduce road noise. Both options are cheaper and work better than what you're asking. Held rain or shine 7 am to 2 pm. now ive been told it is very possible and that it can be done but its going to take alot of money putting this in but im willing to do it. So much so that I'd prefer it over the N55. So even inner wheel arches on a chassis that looked identical from the outside is different between the models. Contact: Lester Manwiller - 610-823-4656; hamburgswapmeet@ontelaunneeaaca.com. What do you mean it's bot sleeved? JavaScript is disabled. G30Model Year: 2017 + . Now this is interesting. An S55 swap would definitely be an interesting one! I'd rather the N55 between the two (N54 vs N55) I know you can do more mods and tuning with the N54, but reliability matters more to me personally. N55, S55, B58 none of them have dethroned the king, There are a few threads in this forum showing n54s with no meth just FBO e85 mix with inlets that are hitting over 500whp, S55 did, but its in a different price bracket lol, N54 Turbo Engine / Drivetrain / Exhaust Modifications - 335i, http://f30.bimmerpost.com/forums/sho1213066&page=4. Everything should bolt up to the 435 correct? bimmerfest.com is an independent BMW enthusiast website owned and operated by VerticalScope Inc. Theyre infamous for this. Depending on the specific model you're looking at, power output ranges from 302hp and 295lb-ft ll the way up to 365hp and 369lb-ft. Second Lieutenant . E46Model Year: 2000 - 2006. Not when 335is are as cheap as they are. Question was mostly for my curiosity to determine if it's something I'd want to do down the line maybe. Read up on the N20 timing chain failures; one of the worst engines ever designed, IMO. Jump to Latest Follow . Stock B58 Flywheel wont fit, it'll rub against the starter. Its way better and stiffer than the f30, You're talking $10,000 on the swap alone! Vader Solution. If you like the e9x, but an n54 version thats been a victim of rod bearing failure or turbos that need replacing. Tags 340i downpipe jb4 mod turbo. :). You really might as well buy a 135i or an M140i from the get-go. It's not even sleeved. They said that its harder to install in pre lci f30 with n20, how they did, cause of big difference between pre lci and lci in electronic system. That is impressive! I'd sooner swap a boat anchor instead of the N20, there're about worth the same. Great to know about the Pure transmissions. i just want to know ask why no one will swap a b58b30 in it? Mind you once you are done you will probably need preventative replacement parts on the engine that you have sourced second hand and that's several k more to bring it to 'new' condition. F30 335i xDrive PWG - MPPK Flash, Got a new motor and the hpfp is different, To become a vendor visit: https://bit.ly/ss-vendor-apply. 4 doors is 2 doors too many. Tags 320i e90 e92 engine swap n20. Upstate Performance and Automotive Repair. Use a 5/64" (2mm) flat blade screwdriver to "push" the connector from the back of the socket housing. Definitely something to go with for X-drive just on the ease of install/programming alone. The BMS Elite is the highest quality B58 charge pipe upgrade on the market. n52 also had this. Rep. 19. Heh, i'm assuming they immediately tuned it, but for a brief second this was probably an engine swap car with the new engine making less power than the original one. We uploaded the update 10 minutes ago! For a better experience, please enable JavaScript in your browser before proceeding. Posts. E90 / E91 / E92 / E93Model Year: 2006 - 2011. Sure, it'll fit dimension-wise but you'll have to retrofit so much to make it work and communicate properly with everything. Id entertain the science of installing a B58 engine into a 2010 e61 535xi wagon (N54 engine). The stage 1 kit comes in at $1,199 and is able to support roughly 550whp. I think the fact that the OP hasn't said anything shows a lot. B58 swap out questions. Mine was a 6-speed. You're a fucking G for taking the time to write this out for the rest of us that are inevitably gonna blow our HP50. Just buy a 335? B58 M2 is the perfect combo IMO. JavaScript is disabled. This replacement charge pipe features all-aluminum construction, high-quality glossy black finish, CNC machined flanges, 2 optional 1/8" NPT methanol bungs, OEM style mounting hardware for a direct fit, and a lifetime warranty. Sell your 320i and swap the plates. N20, N26, B46, B48 Turbo Engine / Drivetrain / Exhaust Modifications, https://f30.bimmerpost.com/forums/sh.php?t=1548060. Or a Supra if automatic is your thing. Guys spent 3 weeks for making complete result. This would be a very cool swap but doesn't seem worth it at all. VS - HeadPort Plugging Kit N54 N55 S55 B58. This thread was never updated, but was perhaps updated on social media elsewhere: so has anyone successfully swapped a B58 into an F30 which was previously an N20 ? Read up on the N20 timing chain failures; one of the worst engines ever designed, IMO. Drives: 2011 LCI 320i. I have a E46 Coupe race car currently with a M54 3.0 Motor. Content on bimmerfest.com is generated by its users. 2021+ Toyota Supra B58 A90 | 6 Port Top Mount Turbo Manifold SKU FR-TM-A90-B58-T4 Maximize Power and Spool with the 2021+ Toyota Supra B58 A90 6 Port Top Mount Turbo Manifold NEED HELP? 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